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General speculations about Snape
Here's some general Speculations about Severus Snape.
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Well, I think he could
be a spy without Voldemort knowing. Here's why:
In book 5, Snape gives Harry Occlumency lessons. Oh, lets go back
a bit first. After Harry, Hermione and the Weasleys leave the Knight
Bus after Christmas, Lupin tells Harry, on page 527, "Harry,
I know you don't like Snape, but he is a superb Occlumens and we all
-Sirius included- want you to learn to protect yourself, so work hard,
all right?" And I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong when I say that
Occlumency blocks another person's mind from getting feelings/memories
from your own. So, wouldn't Snape be able to lie to Voldemort and
the Death Eaters and not be caught? (Meagan
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First I agree with Megan C..that Severus' skill with Occulmency
allows him to keep some if not all his emotions hidden.Therefore it
could be a hard read even for Voldemort. I was thinking about this
a day or two ago..perhaps Prof. Dumbledore is the one who taught it
to him. He mentioned to Harry that he knew how to do it (and perhaps
should have taught Harry himself)and he also mentioned that Severus
was very good at it..maybe he knew since he was a part of Severus'
learning first hand. Also since Voldemort did not make it known that
Quirrel was working for him then Severus still has a shot at fooling
him...for one thing he could point out that Quirrel could be after
the stone for himself..therefore Severus was "protecting"
it for Voldemort. (Afterall Quirrel came back from romania acting
like a jumpy rabbit..afraid of a vampire)
For another he could say he was trying to keep in Prof. Dumbledore's
favor so he can keep tabs on him and that he thought Quirrel might
ruin everything. I agree that it is confusing but Severus has gone
back to spying and the Malfoys still seem to trust him so whatever
story he gave must have been good. Of course it brings up another
question..Quirrel knew Severus saved Harry's life in book 1...now
why would a death eater save the life of the kid who defeated Voldemort?
Unless again he is claiming that he is trying to be trusted by Prof.
Dumbledore or something. Also DShanFan mentioned that a picture of
the aurors is shown to Harry and Hagrid is in it so how come Severus
Snape couldn't be one. My ideas:
1) if anyone on the side of Voldemort saw it (since obviously we know
not everyone who claimed to be good was-Peter Pettigrew)his cover
would be blown and he is as good as dead..it's for his own protection..afterall
in book five Harry says he forgot that someone from the Order was
within his reach to go to for help..Snape...so Severus must be a member
but a hidden one.
2) Since it was an older picture perhaps at that time he was still
just a death eater and therefore not in the picture or perhaps again
it was Prof. Dumbledore's idea to keep him covert and protected. Though
honestly I don't remember the picture being of aurors so much as just
the Order of the Phoenix people..which would be anyone against Voldemort.hence
Hagrid being there.Other than that the thing I wonder about is why
he wouldn't be allowed to be the DADA teacher..he obviously is an
excellent wizard, clever, and knows about dueling and everything else
a DADA teacher should know...though maybe he's the only one so gifted
in potions but still...make him both then
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My theory is that Snape first joined Voldemort because of James.
After reading OOTP it is a fact that James as a child bullied Snape
for fun and then later became an auror along with Sirius and Lupin.
If Snape knew that James, Sirius, and Lupin(?) enjoyed causing him
pain, wouldn't he want to stay away from them at all costs? I have
come to believe while he feared them, he also wanted to prove he was
just as good. Even now he tries his hardest to make Draco a better
student than Harry even though the Malfoy family should hate him for
betraying the Dark Lord. Snape would have known that Sirius had not
killed Peter because as a death-eater he would have known who was
on their side and who was not yet he still led the ministry to believe
that Black was guilty. When he wasn't able to become an auror, (he
probably failed in character since he hates mudbloods about as much
as Draco) and he probably would have tried to become one just to show
that he could do anything that James could, he may have resorted to
showing he was better in other ways; he would become even more powerful
than the Dark Lord himself. As he came into closer contact with Voldy
he began to realize that this would not prove anything and would just
end in his own death. His only way to escape and still not give in
to James and Sirius being stronger and smarter than himself was to
not just run away, but escape the dark lord by teaching himself occlumency.
Having this skill, he would be a valuable member of the order and
would once again be in competition with James. His plan does not work
because someone discovers he was previously a death-eater and like
Umbridge says, when becoming an auror the ministry looks at your criminal
record. His occlumency skills would also explain why he's the teacher
chosen to teach Harry because the others would have no reason to know.
Is this theory realistic? Through out the
books there are other hints. The whole DADA position is so important
because as a potions master he has gone back to almost the same
position he was in as a child, just some creepy evil guy who's life
really sucks. If he had the DADA position he would be thought of
differently than he is now and if he did well at the job, and Snape
is very confident he could be good if just given the chance, people
might forget about him being a geek who grew up to kill lots of
people in hopes that he would get recognized and think of him more
as a person. The only thing that really thing that screws up my
theory is Hagrid. When Harry is being shown a picture of all the
aurors Hagrid is in the picture which makes the deciding of aurors
a very questionable procedure. He can't hide from people, he's got
a very unpredictable personality, and he only went to Hogwarts for
three years. If they choose people like this, why Winky could be
an auror if she wanted to. So why not Snape? So what if he's evil?
Hagrid has to get kids to solve all of his adult problems, Lupin
has a very tight schedule that involves the possibility of accidentally
killing other aurors, and Sirius was guilty of attempted murder
at age 15. All Snape has got is a job spying for the order. (DShanFan)
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The photo that Hagrid shows Harry is NOT a photo of Aurors,
but a photo of the ORIGINAL Order of the Phoenix. This does not mean
that those people necesarily needed to be Aurors to be in the order.
Look at Mr. and Mrs. Weasley... And the reason Snape was not in the
photo, is because at the time he possibly had JUST renounced Voldemort
OR was being hidden by others in the photo until the Voldemort threat
was over... (AgentMoonHunter)
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In Book 1, Snape corners Quirrell in a dark hallway, and says
something to the effect of "It's about time you figure out where
your loyalties lie", because he knows Quirrell is after the Sorcerer's
Stone.
BUT in book five he all but tells Harry he
is a double agent.
NOW, wouldn't the fact that in Book 1 Lord
Voldemort took up residence on the back of Quirrell's head kind
of rain on Snape's "double agent" parade? He basically
blew his cover in front of Voldemort, and Voldemort doesn't seem
like a very forgiving sort.
It's just a query...I'm hoping someone has
some sort of answer to this (Christiana
Maria)
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Snape is obviously doing something with Lucius Malfoy. In book
5 Sirius says some stuff abut Snape being malfoys 'lap dog' and Harry
said later and your job is seeing what the death eaters are doing,
or something, and Snape said yes, that's right. i think Snape doesn't
actually like Malfoy Jnr, he has to pretend so Lucius likes him. and
also, further on Umbridge said 'i expected better of you Snape, Lucius
Malfoy always speaks highly of you' or something along those lines.
so that is obviously what Snape is doing! getting friendly to Malfoy
Snr so he can find out what Voldemort is doing!! WOOHOO i worked it
out. Snape probably doesn't hate Harry as much as Harry thinks, he
ahs to ACT that way in front of Malfoy and Harry so they dont get
suspicious and work out what Snape's doing!
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I have a theory on why Dumbledore trusts Snape so much and
generally encourages Harry to respect Snape (always reminding him
about calling him Professor Snape, for instance). James saved Snape's
life, as told in POA. Snape and James ALWAYS hated each other and
this alone must have made Snape incredibly angry, for why would he
want to be in debt to someone he resented?
I believe that he was the one that found
out about Voldemort's quest to kill Harry and was the one who originally
told the Order so they could perform the Fidelius Charm. Snape may
have found this a good excuse to cross over to the good side (maybe
because hes not really that bad) and become a spy, but also
to repay James his life-debt. This alone may have created
the trust between Dumbledore and Snape, for Dumbledore may have
realized that it was an incredibly difficult thing for Snape to
do, considering his animosity towards James. But James was killed.
The debt was never repaid.
Along comes Harry, ten years later and Snape
still has a great deal of animosity towards the now dead, James
and of course, his look-alike son, Harry. But he still has the debt
to James. Since he can't save James, he must now save Harry at least
once to repay it. He tries to save him from Quirrrell with the broom
incident but it wasn't Snape that saved Harry, but Hermione and
her fire. So Snape still hasn't repaid his debt. He hates Harry
just a little more but he definitely does not want Harry dead. He
still needs to save his life, so he can finally repay his debt.
Third year comes along and Snape tries to
save Harry's life again, this time from Sirius. He didn't want to
hear that Sirius was innocent and not dangerous because it wouldn't
be a chance to save Harry's life again. He may have even believed
that Harry and his friends were under the Confundus Charm, as he
suggested to Fudge. He wants/needs to be the one to save Harry so
he can go on hating him in peace but, alas, Harry was never in any
danger, so therefore, Snape never saved his life. The debt was still
unpaid.
By fifth year, he REALLY despises Harry,
probably because he's tried all these times to save James and Harry
and yet, he still can't do it. He's still in debt. He tries at the
end of the year by looking for the kids in the forest after Umbridge
goes in with Harry and Hermione and no one comes out. He searches
and tries to help the situation but once again, he doesn't really
"save" Harry's life. In a way he does, by alerting the
Order but any Order member would have done the same. It was his
job. I think it's a bit of a far cry from actually saving Harry's
life. After all, there were six of them, not just Harry.
Dumbledore stresses the importance of having
a "life-debt" such as the one between Harry and Peter
as well as the one between Snape and James in SS and POA. Snape
has tried but failed to directly save both James' and Harry's life
on numerous occasions. The question is: Will he ever get his chance?
He hates them both. That much is apparent but I do believe he is
still in debt, which probably increases the animosity he has towards
the two of them. I believe this alone links Snape to Harry and that's
why Dumbledore probably tries to encourage Harry's respect of Snape
but he probably doesn't tell Harry because Snape may not wish for
that information to be disclosed.
The reason why Dumbledore truly trusts Snape
will be hopefully disclosed, eventually. Its been kept a secret
up until now. Its obviously an important secret or else wed
know about it by now! (Flower Child)
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I was just wondering, what if Snape was Harry's father? Sounds
crazy because Harry looks a lot like James, but he has Slytherin blood,
Snape was in love with Lilly, and Lilly didn't dislike him, plus Snape
is always treating Harry bad (probably because James got to raise
him instead) but he still protects him all the time when danger comes.
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First, I really disagree with Dreama, In book two, we actually
hear, that Dumbledore thinks, that Harry got some of his powers from
Voldemort, when he tried to kill him. And that menans also a little
Slytherin blood, and actually, even though the wall says that only
One with Slytherins Blood, can open the Champer, then "all"
you actually need is to speak Snake-language. And, Snape DIDN'T like
Lily, he told her to shut up, when she tried to help him. And I don't
know about you, but I don't tell the one I like, to shut up! And as
you also mentioned, he looks A LOT like his father.
And we also hear, that the reason Snape allways helps him when he
is in danger, is because Harrys father saved his life once.
And second, I agree with Hannah, I think he is trying to spy on the
Death Eaters. There's to many signs, that he does, so you can't believe
that he doesn't anymore. (Artemisia)
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I thought of an Easter Egg from Book 5. When Umbridge is "interviewing"
all of the professors and she goes to "interview" Snape
at her visit. She makes a point of asking him about his applications
for the DADA position, but it is never answered because they are interupted.
I bet in one of the next books it says exactly WHY he never got the
position. (AgentMoonHunter)
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